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Opinion: Say What?! ... Is It Enough?

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We all know that there are several gay characters among the Big Two. When discussing homosexuals in comics, the same characters are trotted out ad infinitum: Northstar, Batwoman, Midnighter & Apollo, Ultimate Colussus, Renee Montoya and a few others. There are other gay characters as well, but they're either relegated to the third string (whether they were there before the outing or not) or the storyline where their homosexuality is discussed is more or less removed from the canon.

We all remember the debacle Marvel had on their hands with the Rawhide Kid a few years ago. His stint with being gay didn't even last to the end of the selfsame limited series! At this point the Marvel MAX series about the Kid's being gay has become more of a joke than anything. Even at the time, there was more discussion about why Marvel made this 50 year old character gay than people who actually bought the book.

Obviously, Rawhide Kid's sexuality was a publicity stunt. It didn't work then, but that doesn't stop companies from trying again. I think most people would agree that DC tried a similar tactic with Batwoman. it was certainly nowhere near as egregious as Marvel's attempt years previous, it was a media ploy nonetheless. The fact that good stories have come from it is a step in the right direction, but her sexuality was a reason for DC to get in the papers and little else.

Should a character's sexuality be a focal point of an ad campaign? Should it be the focal point of a book? If it doesn't take center stage, will it invariably fall to the wayside and simply be a footnote in that character's Wikipedia article?

There are characters who have had it done right. The New X-Men's Anole is gay and deals with it from time to time, but it is hardly referenced every time he is on panel. Mystique has preyed on both men and women and reveled in it, using sex as more of a end to her means than anything (though she did seem to have a relationship with the precog Destiny as they were raising a young Rogue). Even John Constantine of Hellblazer has admitted to a "a boy friend or two."

I realize I've only mentioned characters from and DC and this time it's a good thing. Smaller publishers tend to have no problem in centering homosexual characters in their books and spotlighting their lifestyles without making it propaganda. Strangers in Paradise is a perfect example of this, allowing homosexual characters to exist without propping up that soapbox.

So the question this week is this:

Do Marvel and DC do enough to promote legitimate homosexual characters and relationships? Should they be used as publicity stunts until there is wider acceptance? Or does a character's sexuality, be it straight, gay or otherwise, not factor into this in the first place?

6 Comments

Tony said:

I don't think Batwoman's homosexuality in itself was a publicity stunt--I think the PR department took a decent character development innocently put in by the creators and shopped it out to every media outlet, which is their job.

That being said, I think the creators should do whatever the hell they want, and if the PR department decides to run with it, that's their prerogative. There was almost no mention in the mainstream media about gay characters or AIDS in Peter David's run of the Hulk, despite Northstar hooking up at a wedding with a member of the Pantheon or Bruce's sidekick dying of AIDS because he wouldn't give him a gamma-irradiated transfusion.

Nexus said:

There should be something between having the character's homosexuality being the focus of the story and your Anole example, because Anole's sexuality wasn't dealt with from time to time. It was practically completely ignored untill two or so issues before the cancellation.
And you know what? There is something in the middle. It's called Young Avengers. No attempt is made to hide Billy and Teddy's relationship. It comes up in the storylines regularly, but not in such a way that it dominates the story and there are several nice subtle signs of affection shown throught the series. To me that is how the gay sexualities should be done in comics. But frankly, outside of YA I have yet to see it done like that anywhere.
On a side note, I'd like to warn off taking every change of 'established straight' characters to gay as being a publicty stunt. People suddenly realising they aren't the sexuality they were happens in real life too. So why not in comics? And it makes a welcome change from always having gay characters turning bi or having a straight experience. Not something that happens a lot in comics, but something I've noticed a lot on TV (ex. Shameless, Bad Girls and All Saints for those that now the series and the specific examples I'm talking about).

Connie said:

My opinion is that DC trumps Marvel in this in many ways. In quantity, quality, and visibility. DC queer characters are more likely to have accepted their sexuality, but have also shown, by association, that many major super heroes in their universe are queer friendly. Some of these characters have even had their own titles where their sexuality is not a joke. Their relationships are treated as valid and, dare I jinx it, when someone has a romantic storyline no one appears to be gay bashed for it.

Marvel queer characters are relegated to the no-touching rule (minus one YA hug vs. all the making out their teammates do who are not in acknowledged relationships with one another do), the background, and often seem to be killed off or pushed to the sidelines. This is versus Batwoman and Renee Montoya who had very important roles in 52 and were frequently seen in Batman's Gotham. Or Holly, who was throughout two Catwoman books and her relationship with Karon was a vital part to her storyline when she was training to be Catwoman's replacement. Manhunter also had her own comic (and a fairly successful run) who had a gay couple in her storylines. What's more all of these characters had full lives, often families who loved and accepted them, and respected cohorts amongst the accepted classics of DC. They loved, they kissed, they fought, etc etc.

DC, in my eyes, makes press for being liberal. Marvel makes press stunts. I'm sure they're also more middling because their comic-based movies are goldmines and also seem to be geared at younger audiences than DC. Of course, in a struggling market, you'd think they'd have all figured out how much money the queer population tends to make and how every other corner of the media market is trying to get a slice of that pie.

akaison said:

Vertigo (DC's mature reader line) has a long history of gay characters, and all of them as complicated as straights. Well, probably more like queer- I mean there's Lord Fanny from the Invisibles, there are the gay characters in Lucifer, there were gay characters in Sandman, etc. Also, the real test with Batwoman will come if she's to be a part of the Justice League- if that's true that she's joining.

Oraclechele said:

If the publisher goes toward grabbing as much PR as they think they need at the beginning I'm okay with it. What I am not okay with is the immediate dropping of the character once the arc plays out.

Once a character gets the PR but turns up elsewhere there isn't much more press to get out of it and then it's simply a character living their life.

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I think SIP didn't see major write-ups about it because it was an indie title. The large houses can't help themselves - Where the indie titles fly under the media radar.

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I would agree that DC's entire company seems more inclined to have diversity in the roster but with all the ink on Batwoman they could have followed up with her appearing more often then she did and they certainly could have gotten her own book. She has an interesting backstory as it was laid out but they never explored much of it.

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Another interesting example is Dark Horse and Buffy. They didn't let the moment happen and then answer to the press. They instead got the word out there. Unlike some of the choices by the big two comic publishers Whedon/Dark Horse haven't backed down from the creative decision but boy did they go after the ink about it.

Rosethornn said:

There haven't been any trans characters in the main two (Marvel 616, DC main universe), though. I think it'll take another decade or so for that to come about.

Lord Fanny's a good example, but she's in a Vertigo title, so not exactly mainstream.

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